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The Pedigree Collection

This week, Longbox Graveyard welcomes guest blogger Will Kountis of Comic Swap Shop for a look at an issue of interest to all serious comic collectors. Take it away, Will!

We collect comics because we enjoy it. The reading, the “hunt” for them and the curating of this slice of pop culture. I’m sure you feel or want to feel good about your collection. I have a sense of pride about my treasures. I think you feel the same about yours.

White Mountain

Amazing Fantasy #15 from the White Mountain collection … doubtless at the top of Chasing Amazing’s wish list!

Have you ever wondered what makes a pedigree comic collection?

Have you ever wondered “How does MY collection become one?”

  • Is it the number of books?
  • Is it the value of the collection?
  • What are the rules around this naming convention?

Yes, it’s the number of books. Yes, it’s the value and yes there are rules.

Cosmic Aeroplane

Sub-Mariner #38, from the Cosmic Aeroplan collection

The Certified Guaranteed Company (CGC) has established parameters for a Pedigree Collection, which are quoted below.

The collection must be original owner

CGC: This means that the books must have been bought off the newsstand as they came out.  For example, a collector cannot buy a high-grade run of 1940s comics from various sources and expect it to be considered a pedigree.  The original owner need not currently own the comics for the collection to be considered for pedigree status.

Will: So unless you bought the book new, you are SOL as far as having and owning a pedigree collection. I’m sure someone will be happy to SELL you some pedigree books. But adding quality back issue books to your collection doesn’t gain you any ground over not buying them at the news stand.

Spokane

All-Star Comics #36, from the Spokane Collection

The collection must be of vintage material

CGC: This means that a large collection consisting of comics from the 1970s to present cannot be considered a pedigree.  In fact, until the sale of some key White Mountain books in a Sotheby’s auction in the early 1990s, Silver Age comics were not accepted as pedigree collections. Comic books from 1966 and after are relatively common in high grade compared to earlier issues. This occurred as a direct result of a tremendous explosion in the number of collectors in fandom in the mid-1960s. Collections that are primarily from 1966 and after must have average grades of at least 9.4 to be considered a pedigree.

Will: The new books you are buying now … you are going to have to live to a ripe old age, keep the collection intact AND have them be in freaking STELLAR condition to have a snowball’s chance at a pedigree.

The collection must consist of a considerable number of comics

CGC: Most pedigree collections consist of at least 1,000 books and some number over 10,000 comics. The collections that consist of fewer books, such as the Allentown and Denver collections, must include extremely rare, important, and/or key material.

Will: LOTS of books. Got it. THIS one I have covered. Not that it matters.

Allentown

Marvel Comics #1, from the Allentown Collection

The collection must be high-grade

CGC: Comics from the Silver Age in general would have to be 9.2 and higher, and a collection of exclusive Silver Age material must have an average grade of 9.4. Golden Age comics would have to be high-grade as well.  For example, the Lost Valley collection consisted of many golden age books from before 1941 that were technically mid-grade, but were almost across the board the highest graded copy for that book. Page quality must be nice as well.

Will: Grade matters. Got it.

Mile High

Red Raven #1 from the Mile High Collection, and as seen in Comic-Con Episode IV: A Fan’s Hope

Here are some notable “Pedigree Collections” As you can see MOST of them are named after the city/town/location they were found in. Some notable individuals associated with comics get their name attached to their comic stash.

Allentown
Aurora
Bethlehem
Big Apple
Boston
Bowling Green
Carson City
Cape Cod

Cape Cod

Marvel Family #23, from the Cape Cod Collection

Central Valley
Chicago
Cosmic Aeroplane
Crowley
Curator
Davis Crippen “D” Copy
Denver
Don Rosa Collection
Don/Maggie Thompson Collection
Edgar Church (Mile High)
Gaines File Copy
Green River
Hawkeye
Kansas City
Larson
Lost Valley
Mass. Copy
Mohawk Valley
Haight-Ashbury
Northford
Northland
Nova Scotia
Oakland
Ohio
Okajima

Okajima

Green Lantern #15, from the Okajima Collection

Pacific Coast
Palo Alto
Pennsylvania
Recil Macon
River City
Rockford
Rocky Mountain
Salida
San Francisco
Savannah
Spokane
Suscha News
Twilight
Twin Cities
Vancouver
Western Penn
White Mountain
Windy City
Winnipeg

Note that you can browse scans of many of these collections thanks to the links at the fascinating site, Comic Book Pedigrees.

So to Summarize:

Pedigree collections are as rare as finding an original owner Mercedes Gullwing coupe in excellent condition in a barn. Under a cover. With original paint.

Mercedes Gullwing

Mercedes Gullwing Coupe … looks like something Nick Fury would drive!

Smells like a marketing racket to me. You can’t have one, you can only buy pieces of one.

This sure seems like a retailers wet dream. They get to tout a premium, elite provenance to a group of books and jack the prices for retail sale. And why not, that’s America in action. Its great collection to own, but terrible to buy because of price.

Moment of truth: Every true collector wakes up in a cold, wet sweat dreaming of THIS type of find. Not for the selling of it, but for the HAVING and curating the collection. I hope, upon hope, that as the baby-boomers age more of these collections from someone’s dad or grand-dad will become available and flood the market — pushing the price BACK to something that resembles affordability and that I’ll have an opportunity to get in on the action.

Thanks, Will, for your insight and firm opinions on Pedigree Collections. What do YOU think of the issues Will has raised? Are Pedigree Collections a way for retailers to stack the deck against hobby collectors, or do they have a role in the larger world of collecting? Give us your feedback in the comments section, below, and be sure to visit Will at his home blog, the Comic Swap Shop!

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Posted on September 11, 2013, in Collecting and tagged , , . Bookmark the permalink. 4 Comments.

  1. Definitely sounds like a marketing concept. But wait… we now offer a Certified Pre-Owned Ex-Pedigree Collection you can Lease to Own!

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    • Limited, signed, and numbered, too!

      (But if I had spare millions laying around, I’d likely splash out for select Silver Age key issues … and that is how it would start, Accumulating all over again!)

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